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it is the party of lower taxes. but there are a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, also paying lots of taxes relative to their income. and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change there are a lot of things that the american people are expecting and the republican party, as they get ready for the next election, really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. everybody wants to talk about who is going to be the candidate you better think first about what's the party actually going to represent? if it's just gonna represent the far right-wing of the political spec trouble, i think the party is in difficulty. i'm aed moderate but i'm still a republican, that's how i was raised. until i voted for mr. obama twice i voted for seven straight republican presidents. >> a couple of other foreign policy matters, what should the force, u.s. force in afghanistan look like after ne
it is the party of lower taxes. but there are a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, also paying lots of taxes relative to their income. and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change there are a lot of things that the american people are expecting and the republican party, as they get ready for the next election, really has to focus on some of these issues and not...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he is just another elitest hypocrite when it comes to protection for their kids. >> the nra suffered a big loss in new york today with governor andrew cuomo signing into law the toughest gun control legislation in the country, strengthening the state's existing assault weapons ban. >> going to put rules in place that actually protect innocent people in society. that is what the state of new york is doing today. and it says common sense can win. and good people can win. and you can actually get government to work and get good things to happen. you can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense. >> the nra immediately released this statement. these gun control schemes have failed in the past and will have no impact on public safety and crime, sadly, the new york legislature gave no consideration to that reality while lawmakers could have taken a step towards strengthening mental health reporting. instead, they opted for stopping the rights of gun owners and they did it under a veil of secre
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he is just another elitest hypocrite when it comes to protection for their kids. >> the nra suffered a big loss in new york today with governor andrew cuomo signing into law the toughest gun control legislation in the country, strengthening the state's existing assault weapons ban. >> going to put rules in place that actually protect innocent people in society. that is what the state of new york is doing today. and it says...
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on the one side republicans are saying taxes cannot be considered a part of the equation, and we need to cut spending dollar for dollar for any debt ceiling increase. >> right. the president is saying revenues must be part of an equation, and he does not want to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. so what do they say, skip congress all together because they can't get it done. >> manu raju of politico and marilyn of "roll call," thank you both very much. president obama may have a new immigration plan in the works and what does that mean for his second agenda? and you may have more cash to put in the bank. after the break we'll examine the reason why. you're watching the place for politics. reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it.
on the one side republicans are saying taxes cannot be considered a part of the equation, and we need to cut spending dollar for dollar for any debt ceiling increase. >> right. the president is saying revenues must be part of an equation, and he does not want to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. so what do they say, skip congress all together because they can't get it done. >> manu raju of politico and marilyn of "roll call," thank you both very much. president...
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i think the main reason that they -- they don't want fica taxes to get so low that people get used to paying an amount that can't fund the social security trust fund. it's odd because of all the things we discussed in the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> most of them wish use that might affect economic growth in the future. this was a tax that, according to most people rating it, was worth about 0.8 points of economic growth, and they -- no one talked about it. >> few were talking about it. they were just trying to get to a deal as you're saying there now, dave. now we're seeing this real impact on the paychecks, might there be political backlash from voters for the president or for republicans on this. i almost said the beauty. kind of using the word ironically. the beauty of this issue like this where neither party advocated for it. neither party thinks they can be blamed. >> hurt by it. >> we know what republicans propose in various rounds of fiscal cliff negotiations, and they never proposed an extension to this. they could cynically say, look, and you hear some kind of republican pundit
i think the main reason that they -- they don't want fica taxes to get so low that people get used to paying an amount that can't fund the social security trust fund. it's odd because of all the things we discussed in the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> most of them wish use that might affect economic growth in the future. this was a tax that, according to most people rating it, was worth about 0.8 points of economic growth, and they -- no one talked about it. >> few were talking...
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this is the same crew that were saying they would never see taxes go up. we don't need every member in a republican party. we need 218 votes in the house for a reasonable package. and, you know, you have to watch for people to do, not just what they say. in the u.s. capitol, you can't walk in here with a grun. you can't walk in here with an assault weapon. over in the supreme court which says you have this unlimited right to have a gun, you can't walk in there with a gun. why should people walk sbhinto schools or movie theaters? that congress should provide for the american public. we know that guns can be dangerous in the wrong hands. that's why we have all of the rules and regulations and the security protections here. and we need to make sure that in our day care centers and our communities, we provide a better safety environment for our kirn. >> now, rooiyan, it seems like e republ lip cans, and i noticed the congressman said we don't need them all, some republicans do sound like they are more open to possible gun legislation more than some of the far
this is the same crew that were saying they would never see taxes go up. we don't need every member in a republican party. we need 218 votes in the house for a reasonable package. and, you know, you have to watch for people to do, not just what they say. in the u.s. capitol, you can't walk in here with a grun. you can't walk in here with an assault weapon. over in the supreme court which says you have this unlimited right to have a gun, you can't walk in there with a gun. why should people walk...
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and, you know, he's going to have to face the tax issue, as well. it's not just raising the debt ceiling that he's going to have to deal with. but he's going to have to negotiate with the republicans and perhaps try to change the tax code. all of these things are things he's already signaled he wants to do. what's fascinating is that this is a president who wanted to be a domestic president in the last -- in his first term and he was saddled with an economic situation and two wars to deal with. now is a shot to be that domestic president and make some really big change. but he's going to have to work with republicans in the house in order to get big things accomplished. >> and clearly what he wants to do is have some influence on voters. and though the official announcement is expected today, we do know that obama for america is going to become this nonprofit supporting his agenda. what kind of influence could this have? >> well, i think if you're an obama supporter, you hope it has more influence than it did or what they tried to do during his firs
and, you know, he's going to have to face the tax issue, as well. it's not just raising the debt ceiling that he's going to have to deal with. but he's going to have to negotiate with the republicans and perhaps try to change the tax code. all of these things are things he's already signaled he wants to do. what's fascinating is that this is a president who wanted to be a domestic president in the last -- in his first term and he was saddled with an economic situation and two wars to deal with....
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in terms of tax rates. so fairness would be a part of -- >> that's established. now we're ready for the medicare reform, right? >> well, i guess we're ready to start talking about them joe. >> mark i love what you've written. obama's moment to call us to a greater collective commitment. i think this really resonates with something we've been yearning for on the show. you say this. to borrow a signature phrase let me be clear, this day is not about him, it's about us our nation, our future. where do we go from here? what is the right path forward? how do we come together? here's what i do want to hear. the word "we." a call to a greater collective commitment, a recognition of the sacrifices to come a signal of willingness nessness to do the unpopular to take on his political base a surprise or two, humility faith, gratitude, and keep it short. how great a legacy to leave to call together an anxious nation to calm the divide and ask brothers to lay down their arms to inspire them to a greater cause, to fight
in terms of tax rates. so fairness would be a part of -- >> that's established. now we're ready for the medicare reform, right? >> well, i guess we're ready to start talking about them joe. >> mark i love what you've written. obama's moment to call us to a greater collective commitment. i think this really resonates with something we've been yearning for on the show. you say this. to borrow a signature phrase let me be clear, this day is not about him, it's about us our...
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they couldn't win that battle regarding taxes. with this one, they have leverage. >> they thought it was their leverage but still when you go in to this debate, tamron, they control only one part of the government. it's a house of representatives. democrats control the senate. they control the white house. so while house republicans do have some leverage, we also learned something from the fiscal cliff negotiations that john boner's willing to bring legislation to the floor that doesn't have this majority of support from the party and pretty big, as well. >> all right. mark, thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. talk to you tomorrow on these things. >>> former president george h.w. bush has now been released from the hospital in houston today and headed home. mr. bush was admitted to the hospital around thanksgiving, suffering from a severe case of bronchitis. in the stay, developed a fever. doctors say he'll continue physical therapy at home. mr. bush is 88 years old. >>> my starting point is not to worry about the politics
they couldn't win that battle regarding taxes. with this one, they have leverage. >> they thought it was their leverage but still when you go in to this debate, tamron, they control only one part of the government. it's a house of representatives. democrats control the senate. they control the white house. so while house republicans do have some leverage, we also learned something from the fiscal cliff negotiations that john boner's willing to bring legislation to the floor that doesn't...
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to work hard and raise children and pay taxes without having a vote in congress. director katherine bigelow's film zero dark 30 glorifies torture. she said she is a pacifist and supports protests against torture, but writes i do wonder if some of the sentiment expressed about the film might be more appropriately directed as those who institute and ordered these u.s. policies as opposed to a motion picture that brings the story to the screen. those are things we thought you should know. time now for the gut check. the president called for sweeping new legislation to curb gun violence and ask lawmakers to take the next step. >> to make a real and lasting dnchs, congress too must act and act soon. >> i'm calling to ask proposals right away. >> what does your gut tell you? will republicans give any support to the president's proposa proposals? go to facebook.com/"news nation" and we will have the results tomorrow. that does it for this erkz additi edition of "news nation." the cycle is up next. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll als
to work hard and raise children and pay taxes without having a vote in congress. director katherine bigelow's film zero dark 30 glorifies torture. she said she is a pacifist and supports protests against torture, but writes i do wonder if some of the sentiment expressed about the film might be more appropriately directed as those who institute and ordered these u.s. policies as opposed to a motion picture that brings the story to the screen. those are things we thought you should know. time now...
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by the death tax. people didn't like it before. they don't like it now. >> i feel like with gun laws in particular the second amendment is the go-to argument. it is the banner under which the nra marches. >> i think it's enjoyable for people who felt like they're being bullied by the second amendment, and -- until obama went out and said you have a right to worship freely, i really don't. i tend to think that the people who -- >> i think that it does reframe it so that folks actually feel comfortable coming in, and actually supporting. what i mean by that is, like, nra members are actually overwhelmingly in support of a lot of the stuff with the president is doing, and by saying it actually gives them talking points to talk to their friends and family about it, and that's what they're trying to do. >> right. >> and if glen is right and we're moving towards a second term in which the president is going to be more forth rightly liberal and more principled, then this makes sense, right. this is re-establi
by the death tax. people didn't like it before. they don't like it now. >> i feel like with gun laws in particular the second amendment is the go-to argument. it is the banner under which the nra marches. >> i think it's enjoyable for people who felt like they're being bullied by the second amendment, and -- until obama went out and said you have a right to worship freely, i really don't. i tend to think that the people who -- >> i think that it does reframe it so that folks...
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as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's message is out of sync with that heartbeat, and i think there are ways and opportunities for them to get back in sync to lay out that concern about the second amendment and why the protection is important, but put it out there in the context of those kids who were killed because that's what people see most of all. >> let's talk about the president's strength now. bob, this monday and -- this tuesday he will have taken the oath a second time. the american people have doubled down on this president, a majority of the american people have voted for this guy. two majority votes. he will have that in his poc
as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's...
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we kept middle class taxes low. we insured that every working family across the country had a little bit more money in their pocket to get through some of the tough times. we enacted health care reform. these are real things that we did to take steps to move our country forward. this is what the american people voted for. they voted for change and they voted for action, and stloetd for a pretty specific agenda. >> i wanted to also ask you about valerie jarrett's interview with politico and mike allen. she really pushed back hard on the argument that there have not been so far enough women in key roles throughout the cabinet. i'm not talking about the whole cabinet, but the lead four. now we look at dennis mcdonough being the chief of staff. on the frontline, not enough women. she points out in her comments to mike allen and jim vaned high, i don't play golf. i don't play basketball. i don't really play cards. i don't think anybody questions whether i have a role to play here. it's irrelevant whether the president wa
we kept middle class taxes low. we insured that every working family across the country had a little bit more money in their pocket to get through some of the tough times. we enacted health care reform. these are real things that we did to take steps to move our country forward. this is what the american people voted for. they voted for change and they voted for action, and stloetd for a pretty specific agenda. >> i wanted to also ask you about valerie jarrett's interview with politico...
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, that we've got to fight to cut corporate tax rates, we've got to inform entitlements, we've got to do these things i think conservatives are best suited to do, instead of being engaged on fights on the periphery. we've got to narrow our focus and get back to first principles, and if we don't do that, the republican party's going to be in the minority for a very long time. >> joe scarborough from "morning joe," i like "afternoon joe" too. thank you very much. >> i like your time slot a lot better than ours, actually. 1:00's okay. >> try it some time, sleep in a bit. >> i'd like to. >>> coming up next, the gun lobby reacts to the president's proposals and that nra ad. >>> plus, biden, bloomberg, and gabby giffords. there's a trio inside "time's" special edition on gun control. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust.
, that we've got to fight to cut corporate tax rates, we've got to inform entitlements, we've got to do these things i think conservatives are best suited to do, instead of being engaged on fights on the periphery. we've got to narrow our focus and get back to first principles, and if we don't do that, the republican party's going to be in the minority for a very long time. >> joe scarborough from "morning joe," i like "afternoon joe" too. thank you very much. >>...
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of course, the united states constitution gives the power to tax and spend to the congress, and the congress alone. our current deficit is the result of money congress has already borrowed. president obama explained to the american people today how republicans in congress are trying to avoid doing their actual jobs. >> these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. >> if the american people do not catch on to the severity of all of this, of defaulting on our debts, the country will be in a dire situation. president obama knows this. he believes it. he has proved it before. and he is not going to play games with economic stability. >> so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills, or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but th
of course, the united states constitution gives the power to tax and spend to the congress, and the congress alone. our current deficit is the result of money congress has already borrowed. president obama explained to the american people today how republicans in congress are trying to avoid doing their actual jobs. >> these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits,...
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in favor of boosting sales tax rates. free market economists have praised the idea, but liberal economists say poor people would be bearing the brunt of the cost because they spent a greater share of income on consumer goods. can i stop here for one second? >> uh-huh. >> steve rattner, here's a great example. bobby jindal, like me, a really conservative guy economically. but has come out and spoken out against the stupid wing of the republican party. he's been very responsible. remember right after the election? >> yeah. >> like come on, we have got to be more inclusive, guys, and got to stop being the stupid party. here's a great example. you can disagree with bobby jindal on economics, which i'm sure you do -- >> right. >> -- because he's a lot like me, but you can respect bobby jindal as being a smart guy who wants to expand the party and be more inclusive. >> yeah. i agree. i respect him for all those things. and i think he is part of the future of the party. this particular proposal, i think what you said about it is
in favor of boosting sales tax rates. free market economists have praised the idea, but liberal economists say poor people would be bearing the brunt of the cost because they spent a greater share of income on consumer goods. can i stop here for one second? >> uh-huh. >> steve rattner, here's a great example. bobby jindal, like me, a really conservative guy economically. but has come out and spoken out against the stupid wing of the republican party. he's been very responsible....
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. >> stop cap and tax! stop cap and tax. >> meanwhile, across the country, a new political force was mobilizing, the tea party movement, who aimed to push the government further to the right. >> stop spending money, now. >> in the 2010 midterm elections, the republicans, many backed by the tea party, won the house and weakened the democrats in the senate. most of these freshman came to washington now, not to meet and negotiate, but to demolish a government they saw as bloated, rotten, tyrannical. >> the reason we came here, the new freshman are here, is because the american people said, enough. >> can you hear us now? can you hear us now? >> sometimes the opposition to the president took an uglier, even racist tone. false claims first heard during the campaign reemerged, questioning obama's religion, denying he was born in the country. >> he is not an american citizen! he is a citizen of kenya! >> did it surprise you that at this point in our history, they would try to de-americanize this guy? did it surpri
. >> stop cap and tax! stop cap and tax. >> meanwhile, across the country, a new political force was mobilizing, the tea party movement, who aimed to push the government further to the right. >> stop spending money, now. >> in the 2010 midterm elections, the republicans, many backed by the tea party, won the house and weakened the democrats in the senate. most of these freshman came to washington now, not to meet and negotiate, but to demolish a government they saw as...
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because in our budget that we will pass, we will lift tax reform, which many of my republican colleagues liked, but it will include revenues. it's a great opportunity to get us more revenues to help in part deal with sequestration and deal with the issue of -- >> but senator schumer, the reality is the president is willing to throw the long ball on this big sunday of football, when it comes to gun control. and yet because of his view of republican recalcitrants, he doesn't step up and show real leadership and be proactive on a big spending cut proposal and medicare put proposal because he doesn't want to go there. why throw the long ball when it comes to gun control but not take a leadership role when it comes to spending cuts? >> well, he is. in the negotiations up to the fiscal cliff, the president put things on the table. $400 billion in medicare cuts. he was talking about change cpi, which -- >> you're talking about more revenue. that's not big enough on medicare cuts according to simpson-bowles and others. >> we have already done $1.7 trillion in cuts. we've done $600 billion in rev
because in our budget that we will pass, we will lift tax reform, which many of my republican colleagues liked, but it will include revenues. it's a great opportunity to get us more revenues to help in part deal with sequestration and deal with the issue of -- >> but senator schumer, the reality is the president is willing to throw the long ball on this big sunday of football, when it comes to gun control. and yet because of his view of republican recalcitrants, he doesn't step up and...
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i wasn't separating out about the specifics of entitlement reform and tax reform from the larger issue of how to bring the middle class back, because they are all tied together, david. you can't have one without the other. >> i understand. but the republican thinking in congress has been that the cuts are enough. and that is not the answer. >> no, no, i couldn't agree more. if you take just education and job creation, for example, there is going to be a sea change in american education, which is already underway. go long on community colleges. >> yes. >> developing a skill set. >> yes. we need to support that. and we need to support that, but i need to challenge one thing -- >> medicaid and medicare together. medicare and medicaid together. within 10 years, it devours every cent. >> there's a progressive argument for dealing with that issue. >> which is what? when are we going to hear it? >> well, i want to challenge you and you as well, david, on this point. >> challenge the president, david. >> no, you and you. the premise that the president has not been venturesome in this area, has
i wasn't separating out about the specifics of entitlement reform and tax reform from the larger issue of how to bring the middle class back, because they are all tied together, david. you can't have one without the other. >> i understand. but the republican thinking in congress has been that the cuts are enough. and that is not the answer. >> no, no, i couldn't agree more. if you take just education and job creation, for example, there is going to be a sea change in american...
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on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times, quote, we're saying calibrate your message, focus on long-term spending instead of long-term debt. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. when i asked walden about the debt ceiling yesterday, he was clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there's not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this leadership be willing to do that? >> you know, let's look at how do we avoid default on america and american's deb
on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times,...
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it's not all tax reform or spending. there's talk that the obama administration is making a push on early childhood administration. if you can do that in a big way is the single best investment we can make. obviously immigration reform is something on the table that gets talked about. immigrants are incredibly important to the economy. so, if you can do that, again, it would be a huge boom to the economy. one of the questions, in terms of a better growth pattern, whether we can get out of the deficit conversation. one smart thing republicans have done here is enforcing it to be an endless series of self-endeuced crises. there's no other agenda. it sucks up all of washington. >> that's the problem with the three month extension. the republicans blinking and suggesting i want to fight this debt ceiling on this debt ceiling front, which would be good. they are going to keep us going every three months. we never get around to talking about the larger economic question. >> i don't want to have that conversation in the context
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. >> entitlement reform and without tax reform and without some spending plan that congress can accept and the country can accept, the poll also said that we're talking about obama before the show that the majority of americans believe what's hindering economic growth is the fact that washington continually finds itself at an impasse or a position around how to resolve what seem to be to me and i think a lot of americans commonsense balanced solutions that should be put forward. without that, all of this, i don't think, comes to fruition. >> let me say one thing before we go. michael, if, in fact, the ofa infrastructure does work, does that not then -- does that not mean now all future presidencies will have -- >> the eternal campaign. to some extent, you do already, but this will rachet up one notch. >> it's also -- the political parties have disintegrated in terms of power. the republican side, everything is -- >> understatements. >> i know. the tea party groups, the stuff, those are now the epicenters of the political power right now. it's not the rnc. what organize for action is go
. >> entitlement reform and without tax reform and without some spending plan that congress can accept and the country can accept, the poll also said that we're talking about obama before the show that the majority of americans believe what's hindering economic growth is the fact that washington continually finds itself at an impasse or a position around how to resolve what seem to be to me and i think a lot of americans commonsense balanced solutions that should be put forward. without...
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priorities in the order we're putting them, protecting the wealthy, protecting the lowest corporate tax rates since the 1970s and looking at deep cuts that are going to hurt these people. so i hope, and i think there is some sign today that the president is talking about really holding the line on that. >> well, i think the president is going to hold the line. he was pretty strong about that today. gop pollster frank luntz was asked on fox news the republican failure to win over americans with their rhetoric on spending. here it is. >> do you believe the error is smaller government, the adjustment should be more effective and efficient government. why are those words so important? >> because the american people don't care what the size of government. they do care what types of services government gives. and quite frankly, how much government takes. >> and also, whether the government pays its bills or not. but e.j., this is all in the arena of the republican mantra that they want to make sure that they drive home to the american people that government doesn't do anything well, that we m
priorities in the order we're putting them, protecting the wealthy, protecting the lowest corporate tax rates since the 1970s and looking at deep cuts that are going to hurt these people. so i hope, and i think there is some sign today that the president is talking about really holding the line on that. >> well, i think the president is going to hold the line. he was pretty strong about that today. gop pollster frank luntz was asked on fox news the republican failure to win over americans...
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you think this president -- we'll talk about it, but do you think he'll get there on immigration, on tax reform, when all the issues we have been arguing? >> i do think so. i think, you have talked about this, i think ronald reagan's experience was, yes, being a movie actor, but more important was being a labor negotiator. with the soviet union, with the congress, he did what he did with jack warner back in hollywood in the 1940s, was he asked for 100 and got 50. and getting 50 when you're president as we know is a pretty powerful achievement. what is barack obama? in life he's a writer and a professor. and writers and professors think in a more complex term, they reach more new nuance positions, and the president knows at heart he's a storyteller and analyst, that if he wants history to remember this presidency well he's got to make these compromises. >> that's great, at the end of the write-up, it was president carter losing office to reagan. and reagan coming into office and filling the time he talked about the old days of hollywood in the car driving up. typically howard baker in the
you think this president -- we'll talk about it, but do you think he'll get there on immigration, on tax reform, when all the issues we have been arguing? >> i do think so. i think, you have talked about this, i think ronald reagan's experience was, yes, being a movie actor, but more important was being a labor negotiator. with the soviet union, with the congress, he did what he did with jack warner back in hollywood in the 1940s, was he asked for 100 and got 50. and getting 50 when...
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that is, they did it through some real spending cuts but also some tax increases. and that's the kind of balance that certainly the president has been seeking and that folks here in washington have of course been squabbling about. the tax increases were largely on folks at the very high end of the scale, but they also gave a bit of a bump up to their sales taxes, and the spending cuts were not trivial and they hit lots of programs that people care about, in health care, in welfare. and i think there's a debate to see how much those cuts stick as we go forward. but i like the look of the deal in terms of its balance. >> well, the way this all happened was through this prop 30 that passed. so is this the kind of thing that federal leaders, should they have agreed on reforms and cuts like this? >> i think they should. and i think what this deal really kind ever thematically gets to, i think it gets to the heart of the questions you're asking here, alex, is here you have a governor that goes to the people of the state of california and says, i know you care a lot about
that is, they did it through some real spending cuts but also some tax increases. and that's the kind of balance that certainly the president has been seeking and that folks here in washington have of course been squabbling about. the tax increases were largely on folks at the very high end of the scale, but they also gave a bit of a bump up to their sales taxes, and the spending cuts were not trivial and they hit lots of programs that people care about, in health care, in welfare. and i think...
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budget deal that is balanced and that has enough spending cuts, real spending cuts, to balance any tax revenues? >> well, i think we need to look at long-term and that's where the house has passed the budget. we're still waiting on the senate to pass the budget after 1,350 days. you need to have that on the table from the senate side. you obviously need to have that from the president who has not told us when he is going to send his budget over. is he going to miss those dead looirchz. we have a lot of work to do, but it deals with spending. that's the problem. i want to avoid a downgrade, and i do agree with the vice president of the united states that says we're not going to default on our debt. that's clear. we have enough payments coming in to the treasury to pay our interest on the debt, and that's how we avoid the default, but we've got to focus on the spending problem, and that's what most of my constituents are talking about. >> i want to ask you about the gun control debate because the president is going to be rolling out a new proposal tomorrow, and he is prepared to use exec
budget deal that is balanced and that has enough spending cuts, real spending cuts, to balance any tax revenues? >> well, i think we need to look at long-term and that's where the house has passed the budget. we're still waiting on the senate to pass the budget after 1,350 days. you need to have that on the table from the senate side. you obviously need to have that from the president who has not told us when he is going to send his budget over. is he going to miss those dead looirchz. we...
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there's thought the $8 billion fees the banks are paying could be deductible against their federal taxes as were the dollars bp paid for the clean up. it's something congress needs to stop if it comes to that. at the same time, the largest six banks and the power they have, we need to break up the banks. >> i agree. congresswoman? >> you should know in 2005, i pulled together several members in congress to form a caucus. we realize the economic policies and foreign policies of the bush administration would lead to a spike in poverty. unfortunately, now 50 million people are living in poverty. 16 million are children. we passed a bipartisan resolution to cut it in half now we need a national strike that di- and plan to end poverty. it's a shame and disgrace 50 people in america are living in poverty. >> real fast, when the roe v. wade decision came down, the lead sentence of the story was finally settling a long contentious policy debate in america. not so much. >> nut sg settled in politics. i want to thank my guests today. bill burton, sherrod brown. thank you all. our thanks to everyon
there's thought the $8 billion fees the banks are paying could be deductible against their federal taxes as were the dollars bp paid for the clean up. it's something congress needs to stop if it comes to that. at the same time, the largest six banks and the power they have, we need to break up the banks. >> i agree. congresswoman? >> you should know in 2005, i pulled together several members in congress to form a caucus. we realize the economic policies and foreign policies of the...
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right now you're taxed up until you make $113,000. let's raise that cap to $150,000. there has been numerous proposals by democrats to do this. and this adds years and years of life to social security. so let's put that on the table and see what the other side comes back with and have that conversation. >> one of the proposals that intrigued me that you have out there is this idea that there needs to be budgeting for natural disaster clean-ups. you come from the state of florida, i'm a floridian. we know all too well, we see what's going on with sandy. those are the first votes you voted oranges which is to spend money on these clean-ups. do you think you can budget this? >> well, when you live here in south florida and you are, you know, live in fear of hurricanes every season, it's definitely in the back of your mind frequently. and is there was a bill that was put forward several years ago by some local south floridan members of congress, a national catastrophic fund. when you look across the country, basically everywhere there is natural disasters from floods and
right now you're taxed up until you make $113,000. let's raise that cap to $150,000. there has been numerous proposals by democrats to do this. and this adds years and years of life to social security. so let's put that on the table and see what the other side comes back with and have that conversation. >> one of the proposals that intrigued me that you have out there is this idea that there needs to be budgeting for natural disaster clean-ups. you come from the state of florida, i'm a...
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know our neighbors, the congressman in the next district, however it works, why would i pay higher taxes for your kids to go to school? why would you sacrifice something for me to get health care? >> why would you believe if i told you i would be with you the next time? developing relations. >> not just legislative, culture. you have to know each other for a republic to work. don't have to love each other but have to feel neighborliness. >> that's a good point. look at congress. there was a time members of congress lived in washington. now, it's a three-day workweek e essenti essentially, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, they're on planes back to their districts, no matter how far away for the four-day weekend. they don't spend that much time together, don't spend that much time in washington like they used to. the old sort of image of the washington dinner party in georgetown, where decisions are made and even where friendships and bonds are created that lead to those decisions, that's kind of out-dated. >> it's the politics. the problem is it's us in the media. if they get together. this
know our neighbors, the congressman in the next district, however it works, why would i pay higher taxes for your kids to go to school? why would you sacrifice something for me to get health care? >> why would you believe if i told you i would be with you the next time? developing relations. >> not just legislative, culture. you have to know each other for a republic to work. don't have to love each other but have to feel neighborliness. >> that's a good point. look at...
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that was something that boehner tried to do with his whole plan "b" during the tax thing. and when he couldn't do that, then suddenly he lost all leverage. so that's the name of the game number one. and then the second part is what david was talking about there, which is they are trying to figure out how to basically move away from the debt limit as a part of this argument, and that's -- it's easier said than done. they know where they should be having this spending argument, and that is with funding the government. whether they can get the rank and file to that place is another story. and that's why the white house's strategy is go ahead and pass something. you've got that whole dollar-for-dollar spending cuts to debt limit, go ahead and give it a shot. see how you come up with it because the white house doesn't believe that boehner can pass a bill that even meets his own standard of dollar for dollar. >> and i would just add, i think the view among top republicans, republican leaders, is that the well is so poisoned by president obama. i mean, this goes beyond, you know,
that was something that boehner tried to do with his whole plan "b" during the tax thing. and when he couldn't do that, then suddenly he lost all leverage. so that's the name of the game number one. and then the second part is what david was talking about there, which is they are trying to figure out how to basically move away from the debt limit as a part of this argument, and that's -- it's easier said than done. they know where they should be having this spending argument, and that...